Interviewing former poacher Roy Wright.
Pictured: Roy Wright seated on Charlie the dead croc.
Before meeting Roy, we knew the broad outline of his story. He had spent time in prison, built a reputation as a prolific poacher and became well known in the Northern Territory after illegally killing a giant saltwater crocodile known as Charlie. The crocodile's skull now sits on public display at Crocosaurus Cove, Darwin City.
Like many figures from the past, opinions about Roy vary depending on who you ask. Some describe him as a bush outlaw of his era. Others see him as a repeat offender who caused plenty of trouble.
Pictured: Roy Wright stands with the skull of Charlie 2025.
What interested us was the opportunity to meet the man himself and hear him speak about those events in the present day.
Our time together began at the historic Fannie Bay Gaol in Darwin. Roy walked our team through the prison where he once served time. Standing inside those old walls alongside the man who had actually lived that chapter of history gave the place a different perspective.
Later, we visited Crocosaurus Cove to inspect the skull of Charlie, the giant saltwater crocodile at the centre of Roy's most famous prosecution. The skull remains on public display and serves as a reminder of a very different time in crocodile management across Northern Australia.
Pictured: Roy Wright in his younger days
One of the more remarkable aspects of the case is that photographs taken on the day the crocodile was killed became key evidence during the prosecution. Those images would ultimately contribute to Roy's conviction and imprisonment.
One thing that doesn't always translate through photographs, court records and old newspaper articles is the human element.
Sitting across from Roy and speaking with him face to face, we observed a man now in his 80s reflecting on a life that has taken many turns.
Pictured: Roy Wright mug shot 
We can't speak for what sits in another man's heart, but there were moments during our conversations where we sensed some regret.
Pictured: The skull of Charlie and visible axe marks.
Another aspect of Roy's story that interested us was his long-running conflict with retired wildlife ranger Dave Lindner. Years ago the two men found themselves on opposite sides of the law. Dave was tasked with protecting wildlife and enforcing regulations while Roy regularly found himself in conflict with those very authorities. Their paths crossed more than once and the relationship was far from friendly.
What makes the story remarkable is that today the two men are friends.
Time has a way of changing perspectives. The bitterness and conflict that once existed between them appears to have been replaced by mutual respect.
Whether viewers agree with Roy, sympathise with him or condemn his actions is ultimately their own decision. Our role is simply to document the man as he is today and preserve his account as part of a much larger story connected to the Australian outdoors.
Pictured: Roy Wright, Dave Lindner and Roy's Brother in law Allan.